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firestar314 · Jan 08, 2006, 06:38 AM // 06:38

I just created a ranger, and i'm looking for black bears in presearinc. I found like tons of them in wizard's folly, but the problem is, I can't charm them. They have an attack that knocks me down and interrupts the charm. Any ideas on how to charm them? It takes like 10 seconds for the spell to work... Rrrr

Vilaptca · Jan 08, 2006, 06:42 AM // 06:42

do a search. somewhere on the forum, there is instructions for how to get a bear in presearing. its kind of hard, and will require a second person.

firestar314 · Jan 08, 2006, 06:45 AM // 06:45

Ah, so their uncharmable in presearing...but in postserinc, do they still interrupt the charm?

Savio · Jan 08, 2006, 06:48 AM // 06:48

In Post-Searing you're free to charm bears.

xxSilhouette · Jan 08, 2006, 06:53 AM // 06:53

yeah you will have to just keep the stalker you charm in pre searing and then go to jarrell the tamer right outside of ascalon city (when you get to post searing) and then you can charm a bear as soon as you find one

Asrial · Jan 08, 2006, 11:29 AM // 11:29

HOW TO CHARM A BEAR IN PRE-SEARING: it's a combination of the warrior hammer knockdown and the monk bane signet to keep it off you for 10 seconds

Deus Vir · Jan 08, 2006, 12:01 PM // 12:01

my pet oinker would own your bear. And i heard with an update the lil trick to capture it was fixed...

lyra_song · Jan 08, 2006, 12:03 PM // 12:03

You cannot charm a bear in pre-searing...this is a rumor and cannot be done.

Dave83 · Jan 08, 2006, 12:19 PM // 12:19

You can charm oink?..

Former Ruling · Jan 08, 2006, 06:54 PM // 18:54

Oinker is just what he calls his warthog.

Anyway - The exploit where you could get a bear presearing has long since been fixed - Now NO MATTER WHAT if you hit Charm Animal - He breaks it.

You don't get the chance at a bear until much later on. Black Bears are in the Southern Shiverpeaks.

I of course Don't suggest using a bear though.

Their inherent use of "Brutal Mauling" style attacking makes them the slowest animal - and has been tested and proven not to make them any more powerful to any other animal.

SO their basically slower with no good side to back it up.

Findariel · Jan 09, 2006, 04:03 AM // 04:03

The first occasion to charm a bear is in the Northern Shiverpeaks just outside Beacond Perch.
Exit to the Lornarrs Pass - after the first group of avicara is a black bear (in most cases).

Ask a few friends or guildies to help you with the monsters and you can get one. My ranger got her bear over there, before going to Kryta.

Kidney Licker · Jan 09, 2006, 04:10 AM // 04:10

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Originally Posted by Former Ruling

I of course Don't suggest using a bear though.

Their inherent use of "Brutal Mauling" style attacking makes them the slowest animal - and has been tested and proven not to make them any more powerful to any other animal.

SO their basically slower with no good side to back it up.

You forget their inherently high cuteness factor and large ass.

MrGuru101 · Jan 09, 2006, 04:15 AM // 04:15

It's relitavely difficult to charm a bear. I did it with my ranger in presearing, but you have to get help from the right type of person. I managed to find a Mo/Me to help me do it. He used bane signet/imagined burden and that gave me enough time to charm one. I know it can be done other ways, such as having another person in your party and the bear attacks them instead of you. Although, without another person in your party, I dont see it happening.

Flames of Sorrow · Jan 09, 2006, 04:52 AM // 04:52

Having the bear attack the second person doesn't work. I have tried that a number of times. the bear will stop fighting your partner and will break your charm and go back to fighting your partner.

MrGuru101 · Jan 09, 2006, 05:17 AM // 05:17

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Originally Posted by Flames of Sorrow

Having the bear attack the second person doesn't work. I have tried that a number of times. the bear will stop fighting your partner and will break your charm and go back to fighting your partner.

Exactly, giving you enough time to cast the charm, your partner to use bane signet, then imagined burden, and by then, the charm is complete. Go ahead and try it, I've done it.

DreamCatcher · Jan 09, 2006, 02:03 PM // 14:03

What I find starnge is this:

Why were bears made 'uncharmable' in pre in the first place?..

Dralspire · Jan 09, 2006, 02:12 PM // 14:12

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Originally Posted by TheAmaizingDave

You can charm oink?..

Oink is the piggie at the beginning of the Gates of Kryta mission. Is it charmable? No, I tried.

Former Ruling · Jan 09, 2006, 02:45 PM // 14:45

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Originally Posted by DreamCatcher

What I find starnge is this:

Why were bears made 'uncharmable' in pre in the first place?..

cause those bears are enemies, not normal animals.

Manda Panda · Jan 09, 2006, 05:04 PM // 17:04

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Originally Posted by Former Ruling

cause those bears are enemies, not normal animals.

It's not that, because the wolves in presear are enemies as well, and I charmed one of those.

Epinephrine · Jan 09, 2006, 05:09 PM // 17:09

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Originally Posted by DreamCatcher

What I find starnge is this:

Why were bears made 'uncharmable' in pre in the first place?..

No idea. It doesn't even seem to make any sense; I haven't tested the attributes of a bear charmed in pre-searing, but if they are like other bears they are sub-standard anyway. Perhaps initially they had a nasty "Brutal Mauling" attack, but as it is now (wild, in pre-searing) they have no such ability (I allowed one to attack me and recorded the brutal mauling damages and the regular damages and they were the same) so I see little reason excepting perhaps having a novelty pet later - but then why introduce bears at all in pre-searing.

Jan 08, 2006, 06:38 AM // 06:38	#1
firestar314 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jan 2006	Stupid Bears I just created a ranger, and i'm looking for black bears in presearinc. I found like tons of them in wizard's folly, but the problem is, I can't charm them. They have an attack that knocks me down and interrupts the charm. Any ideas on how to charm them? It takes like 10 seconds for the spell to work... Rrrr

Jan 08, 2006, 06:48 AM // 06:48	#4
Savio Teenager with attitude Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	In Post-Searing you're free to charm bears. __________________ People are stupid.

Jan 09, 2006, 04:15 AM // 04:15	#13
MrGuru101 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jan 2006	yes you can It's relitavely difficult to charm a bear. I did it with my ranger in presearing, but you have to get help from the right type of person. I managed to find a Mo/Me to help me do it. He used bane signet/imagined burden and that gave me enough time to charm one. I know it can be done other ways, such as having another person in your party and the bear attacks them instead of you. Although, without another person in your party, I dont see it happening.

Jan 08, 2006, 06:42 AM // 06:42	#2
Vilaptca Pre-Searing Vanquisher Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	do a search. somewhere on the forum, there is instructions for how to get a bear in presearing. its kind of hard, and will require a second person.

Jan 08, 2006, 06:45 AM // 06:45	#3
firestar314 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jan 2006	Ah, so their uncharmable in presearing...but in postserinc, do they still interrupt the charm?

Jan 08, 2006, 06:53 AM // 06:53	#5
xxSilhouette Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lost in the sands of time... Guild: Blood Of Orr [BoO] Profession: R/Rt	yeah you will have to just keep the stalker you charm in pre searing and then go to jarrell the tamer right outside of ascalon city (when you get to post searing) and then you can charm a bear as soon as you find one

Jan 08, 2006, 11:29 AM // 11:29	#6
Asrial Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: Centurion Guard Profession: Mo/E	HOW TO CHARM A BEAR IN PRE-SEARING: it's a combination of the warrior hammer knockdown and the monk bane signet to keep it off you for 10 seconds

Jan 08, 2006, 12:01 PM // 12:01	#7
Deus Vir Academy Page Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Mercenaries for Hire [MerC] Profession: W/Mo	my pet oinker would own your bear. And i heard with an update the lil trick to capture it was fixed...

Jan 08, 2006, 12:03 PM // 12:03	#8
lyra_song Hell's Protector Join Date: Oct 2005 Profession: R/Mo	You cannot charm a bear in pre-searing...this is a rumor and cannot be done.

Jan 08, 2006, 12:19 PM // 12:19	#9
Dave83 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: England Guild: SeS Profession: Me/Mo	You can charm oink?..

Jan 08, 2006, 06:54 PM // 18:54	#10
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	Oinker is just what he calls his warthog. Anyway - The exploit where you could get a bear presearing has long since been fixed - Now NO MATTER WHAT if you hit Charm Animal - He breaks it. You don't get the chance at a bear until much later on. Black Bears are in the Southern Shiverpeaks. I of course Don't suggest using a bear though. Their inherent use of "Brutal Mauling" style attacking makes them the slowest animal - and has been tested and proven not to make them any more powerful to any other animal. SO their basically slower with no good side to back it up.

Jan 09, 2006, 04:03 AM // 04:03	#11
Findariel Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Europe Guild: DVDF Profession: Me/E	The first occasion to charm a bear is in the Northern Shiverpeaks just outside Beacond Perch. Exit to the Lornarrs Pass - after the first group of avicara is a black bear (in most cases). Ask a few friends or guildies to help you with the monsters and you can get one. My ranger got her bear over there, before going to Kryta.

Jan 09, 2006, 04:52 AM // 04:52	#14
Flames of Sorrow Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Shut Up And Die [DIE] Profession: E/Mo	Having the bear attack the second person doesn't work. I have tried that a number of times. the bear will stop fighting your partner and will break your charm and go back to fighting your partner.

Jan 09, 2006, 02:03 PM // 14:03	#16
DreamCatcher Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Netherlands Guild: DVDF Profession: R/Mo	What I find starnge is this: Why were bears made 'uncharmable' in pre in the first place?..